How to give advice with ば and なら in Japanese
A colleague wants to go to the beach and asks how to get there. To answer, you say what each choice leads to and react to what they've just told you. In this lesson you do that with 行けば and 行くなら, and you see how they differ from 行ったら, using the same verbs.
New words: 〜ば, なら and what you'll compare
The list gives “if” for both 〜ば and なら, because English has one word where Japanese has several; this lesson shows how they differ. The other words are for comparing options: 着く (tsuku, to arrive), 電車 (densha, train), 店 (mise, shop), レストラン (resutoran, restaurant), 安い (yasui, cheap), 速い (hayai, fast), 車 (kuruma, car) and おいしい (oishii, delicious). The list shows おいしい in kanji, 美味しい; the sentences here write it in kana, which is just as common.
Review: comparing, can, and たら
You'll need three things you've seen before. To compare, Aより Bのほうが… means “B is more … than A”, and どちら asks “which of the two?”. To say what's possible, use the potential: 行けます (ikemasu, can go), 食べられます (taberaremasu, can eat). たら says what comes after something happens: 雨が降ったら (ame ga futtara, if it rains). Say these sentences aloud before you go on.
- formal
バスより電車のほうが速いです。
- formal
電車とバス、どちらがいいですか。
- formal
バスで駅に行けます。
- formal
魚が食べられます。
- formal
雨が降ったら、カフェに行きます。
Model: how to get to the beach
Listen once without reading. One person wants to go to the beach on Saturday, and the other gives advice. Then notice three answers: 海に行くなら starts from the plan just mentioned, 魚なら starts from the fish just mentioned, and 電車で行けば says what taking the train leads to. The last line, 駅に着いたら (once I get to the station), is the たら you already know. じゃあ (jā) means “well then”, and どうしてですか (dōshite desu ka) means “why is that?”. 駅の前の (eki no mae no) means “in front of the station”: here 前 marks a place, not the “before” of 前に. 一時間で (ichijikan de) means “in an hour”, and その (sono) “that”.
- Aformal
土曜日に海に行きたいです。電車とバス、どちらがいいですか。
I want to go to the beach on Saturday. The train or the bus: which is better?
- Bformal
海に行くなら、バスより電車のほうがいいですよ。
If you're going to the beach, the train is better than the bus.
- Aformal
どうしてですか。
- Bformal
電車で行けば、一時間で着きます。
- Aformal
海で魚も食べたいです。
- Bformal
魚なら、駅の前のレストランが一番おいしいです。
If it's fish, the restaurant in front of the station is the best.
- Aformal
じゃあ、駅に着いたら、そのレストランに行きます。
行けば: what a condition leads to
〜ば answers the question “what do you get if you do this?”, so the second part gives the result: you'll get there in an hour, it's cheaper, you can eat good fish. To build it, start from the dictionary form. Verbs like 行く and 買う change their final u sound to e and add ば: 行けば (ikeba), 買えば (kaeba). Verbs like 食べる replace る with れば: 食べれば (tabereba). Two verbs are irregular: 来る gives 来れば, read くれば (kureba), and する gives すれば (sureba). The ば form stays the same in polite and friendly speech; only the end of the sentence changes: 着きます, 着くよ.
行け/買え/食べれば、…
- formal
電車で行けば、一時間で着きます。
- formal
海に行けば、おいしい魚が食べられます。
- formal
駅の前の店で買えば、ここより安いです。
If you buy it at the shop in front of the station, it's cheaper than here.
- formal
ここで食べれば、安いですよ。
- formal
アナさんが来れば、車で行けます。
- informal
電車で行けば、一時間で着くよ。
行くなら: reacting to what's been said
なら takes up something just said, or something the situation makes clear, and reacts to it: “if that's the plan, then…”. In this lesson it comes right after the dictionary form (行くなら, 食べるなら, 買うなら) or a noun (魚なら). The second part is often advice or an opinion: 電車のほうがいいですよ (the train is better), この店が一番安いです (this shop is the cheapest). That's the difference between English “if you go” and “if you're going”: with なら you take the plan as given and comment on it.
行く/魚なら、…
- formal
海に行くなら、バスより電車のほうがいいですよ。
If you're going to the beach, the train is better than the bus.
- formal
魚を食べるなら、駅の前のレストランがいいですよ。
If you're going to eat fish, the restaurant in front of the station is a good choice.
- formal
パンを買うなら、この店が一番安いです。
- formal
魚なら、駅の前のレストランが一番おいしいです。
If it's fish, the restaurant in front of the station is the best.
- informal
海に行くなら、電車のほうがいいよ。
Two short exchanges with なら
In each exchange, one person brings up a topic and the other starts from it: パン becomes パンなら, 海に行きます becomes 海に行くなら. The second answer shows something more: the advice can come before the event. You buy the water at the station, before you get to the beach.
- Aformal
パンを買いたいです。
- Bformal
パンなら、この店がいいですよ。
- Aformal
明日、海に行きます。
- Bformal
海に行くなら、駅で水を買ってください。
If you're going to the beach, please buy water at the station.
The same verb with ば, なら and たら
Each group of three sentences uses one verb. 海に行けば… says what going leads to. 海に行くなら… takes the trip as given and advises you on it. 海に行ったら… says what to do once you're there. 食べる works the same way: 食べれば gives the result of eating here, 食べるなら advises on what to choose, and 食べたら says what comes next.
- formal
海に行けば、おいしい魚が食べられます。
- formal
海に行くなら、駅で水を買ってください。
If you're going to the beach, please buy water at the station.
- formal
海に行ったら、魚を食べてください。
- formal
ここで食べれば、安いですよ。
- formal
ここで食べるなら、魚がいいですよ。
- formal
ここで食べたら、駅に行きましょう。
Two limits, and a form to recognize
The three forms overlap, and often more than one is correct: 電車で行ったら、一時間で着きます is fine too. But two limits are worth remembering. When the same person does a one-off action like 行く, ば sounds odd before a request or suggestion, so use たら, as in 海に行ったら、魚を食べてください. And of these three, only なら lets the response come before the event.
The sentence below uses a fourth form that you only need to recognize here: 行くと (iku to) says that the result simply follows, as it does in directions. 通り (tōri) means “street” and まっすぐ (massugu) “straight ahead”.
- formal
この通りをまっすぐ行くと、海があります。
Your turn, and a summary
A colleague tells you 魚を買いたいです (I want to buy fish). あの (ano) means “that … over there”, and 買えます (kaemasu, can buy) is built like 行けます. Cover the sentences below. Recommend the shop in front of the station with なら and a comparison, say what going to that shop gets them with 行けば, and ask them to come here once they've bought the fish with たら; only then check. In short: ば says what a condition leads to, なら reacts to something already on the table, and たら says what comes after.
- formal
魚を買うなら、駅の前の店のほうが安いですよ。
If you're buying fish, the shop in front of the station is cheaper.
- formal
あの店に行けば、安い魚が買えます。
- formal
魚を買ったら、ここに来てください。
Next lessons
- Japanese Conditionals: と, ば, たら, and なら
- Comparing and choosing in Japanese
- Saying what you can do in Japanese: the potential form
- How to say if and when in Japanese with たら
- How to sort out an unexpected problem in Japanese: explain, negotiate, confirm
- How to choose between と, ば, たら and なら in Japanese
- Japanese causative and causative-passive forms